athaniel J. Gillis joins Jon Pounders for a conversation on the nature of the phenomenon, hauntings, non-human intelligences, and the connections between demonology, ufology, and high strangeness.

Gillis is a paranormal researcher, author, and lecturer who spent years investigating after living in a haunted house. He is known for the idea that demons, aliens, ghosts, cryptids, and other anomalous entities may be different expressions or masks of the same underlying intelligence. He is the founder of Preternatural Epiphenomenal Philosophy and has written extensively on these topics, including the books The Skin That Crawls and A Moment Called Man.

In this interview they discuss his research, personal experiences, how the phenomenon operates, and why he believes many of the things we categorize separately may be part of a larger, more deceptive system.

Connect with Nathaniel J. Gillis:
Website / ParaSymposia: https://parasymposia.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenathanielgillis
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thegillisian
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nathanieljgillis

Books:

• The Skin That Crawls

• A Moment Called Man