Retired Green Beret Paul Bock joins Jon Pounders to discuss the closed-door pastors’ meeting he helped organize and his firsthand experiences inside the UFO disclosure world—including time spent with Steven Greer.

Bock, a former Special Forces soldier with deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria, later entered the UAP community and built relationships with key figures in the disclosure movement. He organized a private briefing for pastors and Christian leaders to warn them about what he believes is an emerging belief system forming around non-human intelligence, contact practices like CE-5, and the spiritual implications of disclosure.

In this conversation he shares what happened at the meeting, why he felt compelled to alert the Church, his observations from interacting with Greer and others in that space, and the broader concerns he outlines in his book The Disclosure Agenda.

A direct look at the intersection of military background, UFO research, and spiritual discernment from someone who has been inside both worlds.

athaniel J. Gillis joins Jon Pounders for a conversation on the nature of the phenomenon, hauntings, non-human intelligences, and the connections between demonology, ufology, and high strangeness.

Gillis is a paranormal researcher, author, and lecturer who spent years investigating after living in a haunted house. He is known for the idea that demons, aliens, ghosts, cryptids, and other anomalous entities may be different expressions or masks of the same underlying intelligence. He is the founder of Preternatural Epiphenomenal Philosophy and has written extensively on these topics, including the books The Skin That Crawls and A Moment Called Man.

In this interview they discuss his research, personal experiences, how the phenomenon operates, and why he believes many of the things we categorize separately may be part of a larger, more deceptive system.

Connect with Nathaniel J. Gillis:
Website / ParaSymposia: https://parasymposia.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenathanielgillis
X (Twitter): https://x.com/thegillisian
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nathanieljgillis

Books:

• The Skin That Crawls

• A Moment Called Man

Rick Hummer joins Jon Pounders for a candid conversation about his time in the radio and entertainment industry—and why he walked away from it.

After years working in radio (including in Los Angeles), co-hosting shows, and moving in entertainment circles, Rick experienced a turning point that led him to leave that world behind. In this interview he shares what he saw, the pressures and realities of that environment, and the personal journey that took him out of it.

A straightforward look at one man’s experience inside the industry and the decision to get out.

Jon Pounders sits down with author, journalist, and host Shane Cashman for the unedited version of this Pounders Quest conversation. They cover Cashman’s path from atheist to Christian, his reporting and experiences around Alex Jones and a broader network of content creators he discusses in connection with MK Ultra-style influence, plus Trump, Elon Musk, time travel, cloning, and other territory that sits at the edge of culture, media, and the unexplained.

Shane Cashman is the author of Good Villains: My Journey to the Frontlines of Fame, Controversy, and the War on Reality (Skyhorse Publishing) and host of Inverted World Live and The Shane Cashman Show. His work has appeared in outlets including The Atlantic, Vice, and Timcast, and he has profiled figures such as Ye (Kanye West), Alex Jones, Kari Lake, and Riff Raff.

Connect with Shane Cashman:

• Website: https://www.shanecashman.com/

• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ShaneCashman (@ShaneCashman)

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shanecashman/

• Substack: https://shanecashman.substack.com/

• Linktree: https://linktr.ee/shanecashman

• YouTube (The Shane Cashman Show): https://www.youtube.com/@TheShaneCashmanShow

• YouTube (Inverted World / Tales from the Inverted World): https://www.youtube.com/@TalesfromtheInvertedWorld

Books:

• Good Villains: My Journey to the Frontlines of Fame, Controversy, and the War on Reality — https://www.amazon.com/Good-Villains-Journey-Frontlines-Controversy/dp/1510786147

• Tales From the Inverted World: Close Contact with Ghosts, UFOs, Serial Killers and Simulation Theory (and related volumes, including Ghosts of the Civil War) — available via his Amazon author page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B08L6TNBG4

• Joyless Kingdom: Poems, Prose, and Dispatches from the Plague

• The Fucking Lunatic

• Yes, Your New Baby Is a Savage

This is the complete, raw, unedited version of Pounders Quest featuring special guest Tony Merkel. No cuts. No edits. Exclusive for Quest Club members.Jon Pounders sits down with evangelist, filmmaker, and host of The Confessionals for a full conversation on UFO disclosure from the spiritual side.Tony Merkel has spent years documenting encounters that the world calls aliens, cryptids, and paranormal events—and testing them against Scripture. He argues the phenomenon is not first a space story. It is a spiritual war: fallen angels, interdimensional deception, and a coming narrative that could shake the Church if believers are not ready. In this unedited interview, Jon and Tony go into what disclosure may really be preparing people to accept, why many “contacts” stop at the name of Jesus, and why pastors and watchmen need discernment now—not after the official story lands.Connect with Tony Merkel:

• Website: https://tonymerkel.com/

• The Confessionals: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/

• Book (The Confessionals: Exposing Warring Kingdoms): https://theconfessionalsbook.com/

• YouTube (The Confessionals): https://www.youtube.com/@TheConfessionalsPodcast

• YouTube (Tony Merkel): https://www.youtube.com/@tony.merkel

• Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/TonyMerkel

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tonymerkelofficial/

• Show Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theconfessionalspodcast/

• X:

  https://x.com/tony_merkel

• Show X:

  https://x.com/TConfessionals

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast

• Merch: https://merkmerch.com

• Members: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/join

• Email: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.com

This is the complete, raw, unedited version of Pounders Quest featuring special guest Derek P. Gilbert. No cuts. No edits. Exclusive for Quest Club members.Jon Pounders sits down with researcher, author, and longtime host of A View from the Bunker and P.I.D. Radio for a full conversation on UFO disclosure—not just as a modern government story, but as an ancient one.Derek Gilbert is known for tracing today’s alien narrative back through Mount Hermon, the Watchers of Genesis 6, the Nephilim, the old gods of the nations, and the occult roots of the “ancient aliens” movement. He is the author of books including The Great Inception, The Second Coming of Saturn, Last Clash of the Titans, and War of the Watchers, and co-author of Giants, Gods & Dragons, The Gates of Hell, and Destination: Earth. In this unedited interview, Jon and Derek connect current disclosure headlines to the unseen realm, fallen angels, and the older spiritual war behind the official story.Connect with Derek Gilbert:

• Official website: https://www.derekpgilbert.com/

• Gilbert House: https://www.gilberthouse.org/

• A View from the Bunker: https://vftb.net/

• Substack: https://gilberthouse.substack.com

• Store: https://www.gilberthouse.org/store

• Donate: https://www.gilberthouse.org/donate/

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GilbertHouse

• X:

  https://x.com/derekgilbert

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/derekpgilbert/

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/derekgilbert

• Telegram: https://t.me/gilberthouse

This is the complete, raw, unedited version of Pounders Quest featuring special guest Larry Ragland. No cuts. No edits. Exclusive for Quest Club members.Jon Pounders sits down with Pastor Larry Ragland—author of The Final Flood, host of The Big Picture, and lead pastor of Solid Rock Church in Birmingham, Alabama—for a full conversation on UFO disclosure and what it may really mean.Larry has become one of the most outspoken Christian voices on the disclosure narrative. He argues the phenomenon is not primarily about visitors from another planet, but about interdimensional deception, fallen angels, Genesis 6, the Days of Noah, and a coming strong delusion that could shake the faith of millions. In this unedited interview, Jon and Larry go deeper into government hearings, the alien narrative, spiritual warfare, and why the Church must be ready before the official story hardens.Connect with Larry Ragland:Website: https://www.larryragland.com/

Book (The Final Flood): https://www.thefinalflood.com

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LarryRagland

Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/LarryRagland

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelarryragland/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thelarryragland

X: https://x.com/larryragland

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thelarryragland

In this episode of Pounders Quest, Jon Pounders sits down with longtime MUFON investigator and CE4 Research founder Joseph Jordan for a hard look at the true nature of aliens and UFOs — and why his findings have drawn sharp criticism from big names in the UFO movement.Joe spent more than 30 years investigating the phenomenon from the inside. What he found is not what the mainstream disclosure narrative wants to talk about: the so-called alien abduction experience can be stopped, and the evidence points away from biological extraterrestrials and toward something interdimensional and spiritual. In this conversation, he walks through that research, the red flags in modern Ufology, and the backlash that followed when he refused to bury the part of the puzzle most researchers won’t touch.If you’ve wondered why some of the biggest voices in UFO culture push so hard against certain conclusions, this episode goes straight at it.Joseph Jordan’s Books:Piercing the Cosmic Veil: You Shall Not Be Afraid of the Terror by Night — https://www.amazon.com/Piercing-Cosmic-Veil-Afraid-Terror/dp/1893788318

The Red Flags of Ufology — https://www.amazon.com/Red-Flags-Ufology-Joseph-Jordan/dp/1893788326

UAP: End Time Delusion: Exposing the Final Supernatural Counterfeit — https://www.amazon.com/UAP-Delusion-Exposing-Supernatural-Counterfeit-ebook/dp/B0GJP2XJ67

Connect with Joseph Jordan / CE4 Research:Website: https://www.ce4research.com/

Website: https://www.piercingthecosmicveil.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CE4ResearchUFOtruth

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CE4Research

Email: ce4president@yahoo.com

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Join Jon Pounders on Pounders Quest as he sits down with the guys from the HBO/Discovery docuseries Gold, Lies & Videotape — Terry Delonas and Alex Alonso.

They break down what the series revealed about the legendary $28 billion treasure hidden inside Victorio Peak in New Mexico, the Noss family’s 80-year battle with the U.S. government, and the much darker story that opened up once they started digging for the gold.We cover the original 1937 discovery, the cave collapse, the military takeover of the land, allegations of government theft of thousands of gold bars, connections that reach all the way to Watergate, and the web of conspiracies that surfaced the deeper they went.

This isn’t just a treasure hunt. It’s a story about hidden history, power, and what happens when one family refuses to let the official narrative stand.

Watch the docuseries Gold, Lies & Videotape:
https://www.hbomax.com/show/4014d992-783c-40a3-b4e8-fec4f159ac89
(also available on Discovery+)Books on this story by John Clarence (Jack Staley / “Jack Kuts”):
The Gold House Trilogy + All the President’s Gold
Author page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B00J73MQDA
The Gold House – The Discovery: https://www.amazon.com/Gold-House-Discovery-Book-Trilogy-ebook/dp/B00BMG20H2
The Gold House – The Lies, The Thefts: https://www.amazon.com/Gold-House-Thefts-Story-Victoria/dp/0983402523

Drop your thoughts in the comments. Have you seen the docuseries? What do you think is really buried at Victorio Peak?

In this raw and unfiltered conversation, Jon Pounders sits down with Kelly Hawley, founder and Executive Director of Warrior Bride Ministries, for a powerful discussion on the realities facing survivors of ritual abuse, generational trauma, mind control, and childhood sexual exploitation.Kelly shares insights from nearly two decades of hands-on ministry with survivors, including her own journey of healing. She opens up about the patterns she consistently encounters, the spiritual and emotional battles many face, the lack of understanding in both the church and mainstream culture, and the hope available through biblical restoration, deliverance, and identity in Christ.This interview dives into:

• What survivors of ritual and generational abuse are increasingly revealing

• The hidden systems and programming that keep people trapped

• Why the body of Christ must wake up and get equipped

• Practical hope and the path to freedom Kelly has witnessed in the lives of those she serves

Listener discretion is advised — this conversation addresses heavy and sensitive topics.Learn more about Warrior Bride Ministries and the work Kelly is doing at warriorbrideministries.com.

Bruce Randall: Can AI Have Consciousness? Human Soul vs Artificial Intelligence | Jon PoundersIn this thought-provoking episode of Pounders Quest, Jon Pounders sits down with AI strategist and Reiki master Bruce Randall to explore one of the most important questions of our time: Can artificial intelligence ever possess true consciousness?

Bruce Randall dives deep into the AI-Human Paradox, examining the difference between artificial intelligence and genuine human consciousness. He shares his unique perspective as both a tech visionary and energy healer, discussing whether AI can ever develop a soul, the spiritual implications of brain-computer interfaces, and what this rapid advancement means for humanity’s future.

If you’ve ever wondered about the line between man and machine, the nature of consciousness, or how AI is reshaping what it means to be human, this conversation is essential.

John Jubilee: How to Renew Your Health Naturally & Heal Your Body | Jon PoundersIn this powerful episode of Pounders Quest, Jon Pounders sits down with health expert John Jubilee to reveal practical, natural ways to renew your health from the inside out.John Jubilee shares his approach to true health renewal — focusing on cellular repair, detoxification, and restoring the body’s natural ability to heal. Whether you’re dealing with chronic issues or simply want to optimize your health and vitality, this conversation is packed with actionable insights.

UNEDITED: Electronic Harassment - We Are Finding Microchips In Everyone

This is the complete, raw, unedited version of Pounders Quest featuring special guest Jesse Betran.

No cuts. No edits. No censorship.

In this explosive conversation we dive deep into electronic harassment and the growing reports of microchips being found in people. Jesse Betran joins us to break down what he’s seen, the evidence being uncovered, and what it could mean for targeted individuals and society at large.

If you’ve been following the stories of electronic harassment, gang stalking, or unexplained implants, this unfiltered discussion is for you.

⚠️ This is the FULL unedited episode — viewer discretion advised.

Drop your thoughts in the comments. Have you or someone you know experienced anything like this?

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David shares his historicist understanding of prophecy fulfillment, exposing popular deceptions and walking through Daniel 9, the Olivet Discourse, and the Revelation timeline with clear, Scripture-based explanations. If you’ve ever wondered where we really are on God’s prophetic calendar, this conversation will challenge and equip you.We cover: • Why the 70th Week of Daniel 9 is not a future 7-year tribulation • The true fulfillment of the seals, trumpets, and bowls • Where we stand today on the Revelation timeline • What comes next as we await Messiah’s returnDavid’s no-nonsense, Bible-first approach has helped thousands see through modern prophecy deceptions. Don’t miss this eye-opening discussion! Drop your thoughts in the comments: Do you agree we’re in the Sixth Seal? What prophecy signs stand out to you right now?Connect with David Nikao Wilcoxson: Books (The 70th Week of Daniel Decoded, The Olivet Discourse Decoded, Revelation Timeline Decoded)
→ https://www.amazon.com/David-Wilcoxson/e/B08CJFFWXD Main Ministry Websites
→ https://bibleprophecydecoded.com
→ https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com YouTube – End Times Deceptions
→ https://www.youtube.com/@EndTimesDeceptions

In this eye-opening episode, we sit down with Seth Kicklighter — author of the no-holds-barred book Spirit Realm Shenanigans! and a leading voice exposing the hidden mechanics of the spirit world — to unpack simulations and entities within the astral realm.What if our entire reality is a simulated construct… and the astral plane is the backstage where the real programmers — and the deceptive entities running the show — operate? From out-of-body experiences and astral projection to spirit guides, consciousness hacks, and the discarnate forces pulling strings behind the veil, Seth brings his signature unfiltered research and biblical insight to reveal how these phenomena may be far more dangerous (and engineered) than most people realize.We dive deep into:

• The simulation hypothesis and its direct ties to astral travel, lucid dreaming, and altered states of consciousness

• Entities in the astral realm: who (or what) they really are — discarnate dweebs, Nephilim remnants, and demonic fabrications

• Why “spirit guides,” psychic powers, and near-death experiences often feel so real… yet break down under spiritual scrutiny

• Biblical warnings about the spirit realm, end-times deception, and the battle happening in unseen dimensions

• Practical discernment tools for anyone who’s ever had an OBE, remote viewing session, or encounter with “higher beings”

Seth delivers his trademark raw, story-driven take — blending personal encounters, deep research, and scriptural clarity — to expose the New Age spiritual traps and point straight back to the truth of God’s Word.If you’ve ever questioned the nature of reality, wondered about astral entities, or felt something was “off” about the simulation we’re living in, this conversation will challenge your assumptions and arm you with spiritual insight you won’t find in mainstream discussions.Don’t miss this powerful deep dive into simulations, the astral realm, and the entities that may be controlling both.

In this explosive episode, we sit down with Stephen DeMatties Jr. — host of The Biblical Hitmen podcast — to unpack Atlantis 2.0: the chilling return of the ancient advanced civilization in our modern world.What if the legendary lost empire of Atlantis wasn’t truly lost… but is being deliberately rebuilt right now through technology, global governance, occult symbolism, and transhumanist agendas? Drawing from biblical prophecy, hidden history, Plato’s accounts, Edgar Cayce’s visions, and the dark threads of mystery schools, Freemasonry, and the New World Order, Stephen connects the dots between the fall of Atlantis and the rise of today’s “New Atlantis.”We dive deep into:

• How ancient Atlantean knowledge and occult practices are fueling AI, cybernetics, and the push toward a one-world system

• Parallels between the pre-flood world, the Tower of Babel, and current globalist “progress”

• The spiritual warfare behind the “return of Atlantis” and what it means for end-times prophecy

• Warnings from Scripture about the deception coming upon the whole world

If you’ve ever wondered why the elites obsess over ancient symbols, advanced tech, and a “golden age” reset, this conversation will give you biblical clarity and spiritual insight you won’t find anywhere else.Stephen brings his signature no-holds-barred research from The Biblical Hitmen to expose the hidden agenda and point us back to the truth of God’s Word.

In this explosive Pounders Quest interview, Dr. Joy Pugh dives deep into the hidden connections between modern UFO and UAP sightings, the rise of the Antichrist, and biblical end times prophecy.

Drawing from decades of research into fallen angels, spiritual deception, and Scripture, Dr. Pugh explains how these phenomena may be preparing the world for the ultimate end-times deception foretold in Revelation.

If you've ever wondered whether UFOs are extraterrestrial, demonic, or something far more sinister tied to the Antichrist system—this is the conversation you need to hear.

Official Website: https://www.drjoye.com
Books & Publisher (Sacred Word Publishing): https://sacredwordpublishing.com/collections/books/dr-joye
Amazon Author Page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B002BLVB2W
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joye.pugh/

On this episode of Pounders Quest, host Jon Pounders is joined by Stephen DeMatties of Biblical Hitman for a deep dive into one of the most influential — and largely overlooked — spiritual movements of the modern era. We explore the lost civilization of Atlantis as the ancient wellspring of esoteric knowledge, how Helena Blavatsky’s Theosophy revived and repackaged that wisdom for the 20th century, and the unmistakable “Spirit of the New Age” that emerged from it. More importantly, we trace the direct pipeline from Theosophical teachings into today’s technology: the influence on pioneering inventors, the subtle imprint on Silicon Valley’s transhumanist dreams, and the way New Age metaphysics is now being hard-coded into AI, virtual realities, and the coming “global consciousness” tech. Is the digital age simply the latest chapter in an ancient Theosophical plan? Are we witnessing the technological fulfillment of the “New Age” blueprint? Stephen brings the sharp biblical lens while Jon connects the dots across history, spirituality, and innovation. This is the conversation that reveals how ancient mystery schools, 19th-century occult revival, and 21st-century tech are all part of the same unfolding story.

Tune in to Pounders Quest — where the quest for truth gets real.

Seth Kicklighter — better known as Sethlehem — is the no-holds-barred author of Spirit Realm Shenanigans, an unhinged, straight-to-the-point rant exposing the psychic fabrications of discarnate dweebs and Nephilim nitwits.

A Jacksonville, Florida native with a background in concert photography and a front-row seat to the modern spiritual chaos, Seth has spent years diving headfirst into astral travel, spirit guides, the Monroe Institute, remote viewing, Reiki, channeling, and the entire New Age playbook… only to come out the other side sounding the alarm with a biblical lens most people are too scared to pick up.

In this raw, unedited pre-release of Pounders Quest, Sethlehem brings the fire — no script, no filter, just real talk on the spirit realm, demonic deception, and why so many “enlightened” experiences might actually be the exact opposite of what they claim.

Buckle up. This one gets weird… and then it gets real.

Giants have been mapped and recorded in hundreds of sites across the United States. Fritz Zimmerman is the premier explorer and researcher on this subject.

Barbara was a top earner in the super modeling industry. Barbara worked for Diddy and exposed abuse she went through at the hands of celebrities. Her agent was mentioned in the Epstein files thousands of times.

Jon Pounders and Jack Cruz talk about MK ultra.

Nephilim Death Squad and Jon Pounders have a conversation about Zionism, Controlled Opposition, Comedy and other interesting topics.

Is God a Zionist? Jon interviews scholar Christopher Kuehl a Zionist. Unedited Pounders Quest Episode.